Radiation analysis horizontal grid


#1

Hi everyone,

I tried to run some tests to calculate the solar radiation on a horizontal plane with different components (PIT, RAD and DC). I used San Francisco climate file. I found some weird results:

  1. As you can see in the figure attached for all the methods the radiation value is not uniform all over the plane.
  2. Using RAD component the value doesn’t “match” the global horizontal radiation value from the EPW.
  3. Different results between RAD e DC simulations. DC results are closer to the climate file.

Can someone help to figure out why these strange results occur?

Attached the GH file.

Andrea

05_annual_radiation_gridbased.gh (423.8 KB)

solar rad


#2

Hi @AndreaZani905,

Thank you for posting this. As you know getting the results with a slight difference from radiance is normal but in your case it seems more than a bit. I won’t be able to check this right now but I marked this to check next week.

In case of direct comparison between the values from weather file and the simulation keep in mind that the simulation values are for between the hours (e.g. 8:30, 9:30 and so on).

cc: @sarith


#3

@mostapha I thought all the recipes were for illuminance only? If he is actually doing a full-fledged radiation study he might have flipped the -O flag for gendaymtx, right?


#4

We have a recipe for radiation which generates the sky matrix with -O1:

gendaymtx -m 1 -r 0.0 -O1 -s -v sky\skymtx_sol_r1_2_725300_41.98_-87.92_0.0.wea

I wonder if the difference happens in sun matrix. I didn’t get a chance to address the -m in gendaylit.


#5

Yes, it seems that happens with the calculation of the sun matrix.

Best,

Andrea


#6

@AndreaZani905,

I checked the file and I’m getting different results from yours.

  1. Radiance’s gendaylit overestimates the values.
  2. Radiation recipe is right on with the results.
  3. DC recipe for Radiation is noisy but the average results is pretty close to the value from the weather file.

Here is the file: radiation_study_comparison.gh (433.7 KB)

The difference between RAD recipe and DC recipes is that RAD is using a simpler approach to calculate the skies.

DC method generates the Tregenza total sky, Tregenza direct sky and sun matrix (analemma) and runs 3 calculations. The final result is total - direct + sun. In this approach we try to replace the inaccurate patched sky with correct sun matrix but at the same time the calculation under the patched sky is happening twice which adds the noise to the scene. Here is the results from total and direct sky side by side.

RAD recipe on the other hand generates Tregenza diffuse sky and sun matrix and adds them up. In this approach we run the analysis under patched sky once and so there is less noise in the calculation. If you’re looking to calculate annual radiation I suggest you to use the Radiation recipe component.

PS: Update both ladybug and honeybee from GitHub before testing the file.


#7

Thanks Mostapha, with the updated components I get your same results.

Best,

Andrea